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29.05.2008
Want to Save Energy? Move to Southern California!



What major metropolitan area in the continental United States has the smallest carbon footprint? It's Los Angeles, not ordinarily thought to be a mecca of energy conservation.

There are a few different things going on here, aside from the methodological caveats outlined in the article. One is that Los Angeles is simply less sprawling, and more dense, than most people realize (well, you might realize it when you're stuck in traffic on the 405...). In fact, this is true of the West generally: The region's popular image notwithstanding, it's the most urbanized part of the country, because rural areas simply can't support much in the way of economic activity. Ten of the country's fifteen most densely packed metropolitan areas are in the West. Since denser settlemement patterns reduce energy consumption, the West does pretty well on these measures despite its lack of a public transporation infrastructure--all but one of ten most carbon-intensive metropolitan areas are located east of the Mississippi.

Climate also contributes significantly here. Air conditioning requires much less energy than heating, so all else equal, warm-weather cities emit less carbon dioxide. (Honolulu is the only city in the country that beats L.A.) According to Wired, heating a typical home in the Northeast emits 13,000 pounds of carbon dioxide annually, while cooling a typical home in Phoenix emits only 900 pounds. And southern California--at least the part of it within about 20 miles of the coast--stays cool enough in the summer than even air-conditioning emissions are pretty low. Incidentally, this warm-weather advantage makes it even more remarkable that seven of the ten highest per-capita emitters are in the South, despite its mild climate. A heavy reliance on coal is partly to blame, but there's also a lot of low-hanging fruit to be had in terms of improving efficiency.

--Josh Patashnik

Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:28 PM with 15 comment(s)

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singlespeed said:

Another tidbit Josh, while LA is dense it's also the densest city in the U.S. Don't say that too loud next to a New Yorker though. They go into epileptic fits when they realize that the NY metropolitan area sprawls more than Los Angeles too!

www.sprawlcity.org/.../index.html

Los Angeles also used to have the most comprehensive and biggest street-car transit system prior to the 50s. Now if they could just expand that awful subway system they have it'd be even better. As the Village People once paraphrased "Go West...were the skies are blue." But for some reason this version is so much campier... www.youtube.com/watch

May 29, 2008 4:09 PM

liberal reformer said:

Seattle, my hometown, is densifying. We are going the way of Vancouver B.C. Still, we are pikers compared to SoCal. In my county, King, there are about 1.8 million people but in Los Angeles county, there are well in excess of 9 milliion. We certainly don't have their climate, though. This is one of the grayest parts of the country.

May 29, 2008 4:20 PM

singlespeed said:

That first sentence I should have typed  "L.A. is the third densest city in the U.S."

May 29, 2008 4:36 PM

dylanposer said:

Lib Ref,

9 million!?!?!  Where did you get that number!  I was there 6 weeks ago, and passed by several signs on the border of LA County that exhibited competing numbers--some said 3.9 mil, some said 4.5 mil, some said 4.7 mil.  9 million seems believeable, though.

May 29, 2008 5:11 PM

perkowitz said:

I had no idea cooling was carbon-cheaper than heating. I guess it's because you always hear those stories about brownouts on super-hot days. Is that because most AC is driven by electricity while much heating is driven by gas or oil?

May 29, 2008 5:22 PM

perkowitz said:

seattle made a decision to try and grow up instead of out a while ago.. I don't know enough about it to say how much that policy decision has affected development, but you see the upward-growing everywhere, and I mostly like it. I think we're getting more of the kinds of neighborhoods that jane jacobs would approve, while still having lots of beautiful green and the little tiny houses with beautiful yards that are so characteristic of seattle.

May 29, 2008 5:24 PM

jet said:

Way off this topic, but something to keep an eye on.  This was posted on the NextRight site, with the link to the original article below...an investigation into illegal manipulation in the oil and gas futures markets by hedge funds.  

http://tinyurl.com/6mlggj

May 29, 2008 5:46 PM

aeromonas said:

I'll buy the bit about LA's density.  This southeasterner has only paid a few brief visits to SoCal, but just looking around the pattern of development there rather reminds me of Australia, where I now reside, suburban with stand-alone houses (same tile roofs, too), but DENSELY so, with small yards if any and usually little more than one or two driveway widths between homes. Also, like Australia, LA seems to retain some retail strips within reasonable proximity to where people live.  

Very different from North Carolina where I most recently lived Stateside, where they're happy to throw up development after development of enormous neocolonials each one on a quarter acre lot cut out of some scraggely pine forest, miles away from the nearest shopping.

May 29, 2008 7:45 PM

Nippers said:

Wait a minute, there, singlespeed. LA is not denser than New York City. Something smelled fishy, so I followed Josh's "more dense" link, which leads to a blog called Austin Contrarian. The blogger writes: "Every once in a while -- invariably in a debate over sprawl -- someone will toss out the 'fact' that the Los Angeles metropolitan area is denser than the New York metropolitan area." He or she explains why that claim is fishy with greater statistical sophistication than I possess, but here's the simple version: LA is denser if you compare misleadingly defined "urban areas" rather than cities--that is, if you take on the one hand LA & Long Beach but leave out suburbs in the valley, and then take on the other hand all of metropolitan New York (5 boroughs plus suburbs in NY, NJ, and CT).

The blogger Josh links to quotes someone named Ryan Avent, and I will do the same:

"Los Angeles is hemmed in by its geography, so it can’t just keep spreading at ever lower densities out into the wilderness. As such, its density profile is like a plateau–not all that tall at anyone point, but with a respectable average height, because the long tails are excised. New York, by contrast, is like a mountain. It has an enormous peak containing most of the mass, but the flattening sides of the mountain continue on for miles.

In other words, the fact that the last million or so people in the New York metro area occupy an incredibly large area while the last million or so Angelenos are in moderate density suburbs packed against the very edge of the basin, skews the relative density figures, making them pretty uninformative."

Austin Contrarian makes a numerically dazzling (if somewhat mystifying) case that New York is three times denser than an LA.

Finally, the caveats in that Brookings Institute study are pretty huge. They excluded industry, and didn't even factor in LA's coal-fired power plants.

May 29, 2008 11:48 PM

tomeg said:

"Los Angeles is hemmed in by its geography, so it can’t just keep spreading at ever lower densities out into the wilderness."

Depends on what you mean by "Los Angeles." If you take the official city limits - which means you exclude the cities of Burbank, Glendale, Pasadena, Hollywood, West Hollywood, not to mention Santa Monica, and several other municipalities, all of which lie within or contiguous with the limits of the City of Los Angeles, but are not officially part of it - you get one figure for population. When those cities are added you get closer to a "Metro L.A." But in reality there is much more population and extended area in "Greater Los Angeles." Hemmed in it isn't, certainly not by geography. I have no idea what to make of the second clause, since density is increasing in every part of Los Angeles however you draw it, and there ain't no "wilderness" to spread out into, entertaining as it may be to fantasize.

In the broadest sense, Los Angeles is virtually unlimited in population and area, the only firm geographic limit being the Pacific (and who knows about that, really).

These "studies" drive me crazy. Why would you want to limit Los Angeles, anyway? (I truly mean that!)

May 30, 2008 1:24 AM

tomeg said:

If you want to hold that New York City and Metro Area are greater in population and density then Los Angeles and Metro, fine by me, but such concepts are irrelevant. New York is irrelevant. "Old USA" if you catch my drift.

May 30, 2008 1:31 AM

singlespeed said:

Nippers...

Look at the link I supplied as well. www.sprawlcity.org/.../index.html

Here it is again and the paper that analyzes 20 years of urban growth. www.sprawlcity.org/.../USAsprawlz.pdf

I agree that there is the question of "what is density" and "what is sprawl". Los Angeles operates between those two. It's suburban sprawl is denser than most other city suburbs.

The paper I'm linking to indicates in it's body that you can define urban density by quality, type of density, etc. But they use the simple calculation of developed urban area divided by population density. They also define the terms they're using.

Look I'm not trying to legitimize the size of sprawl in LA but New York  Metropolitan area claims a density superiorness that isn't there if you're going to calculate entire metropolitan area of Los Angeles then you have to use the same factors for NYMA.

The Austin Contrarian seems to contradict itself by quoating "LA is hemmed in by its geography" and then implies that because NYC isn't you have to discount its outlier suburbs. What? If that's the numbers game then only use Manhattan proper then. Don't include the five burroughs, which by the way consider themselves independent cities but still a part of NYC. The Austin Contrarian says he uses U.S. Census Bureau data to help him "weight"  sprawl and density. But excluding certain uses based solely on residential densities is misleading. You have to include all urban uses in the calculations otherwise you're skewing data points towards residential density use only.

But as this post illustrates is that Americans are highly sensitive to the words density and sprawl.

May 30, 2008 10:43 AM

randall said:

It should not take too close a look at the statistics to recognize that New York is far more densely populated than Los Angeles. My guess is that some one confused Consolidated MSAs with Prime MSAs. According to a comparison of equivalent measures, New York seems to be about four times as densely populated.

CMSAs  LA (4472)  v.  NY (5602)

2000 pop:  16,373,645  v.  21,199,865

Land:  33,955.44  v.  10,449.86

Density:  482.2  v.  2,028.70

PMSAs  LA (4480)  v.  NY (5600)

2000 pop:  9,314,235  v.  9,519,338

Land: 1,141.64  v.  4,060.87

Density:  2,344.20  v.  8,158.70

FIPS codes

4472: "Los Angeles--Riverside--Orange County, CA CMSA"

5602: "New York--Northern New Jersey--Long Island, NY--NJ--CT--PA CMSA"

4480: "Los Angeles--Long Beach, CA PMSA"

5600: "New York, NY PMSA"

The NY PMSA includes: Bronx County, Kings County (Brooklyn), New York County (Manhattan), Putnam County, Queens County, Richmond County (Staten Island), Rockland County, Westchester County.

The LA PMSA is all of Los Angeles county.

For additional information see:

www.census.gov/.../density.html

"Population, Housing Units, Area, and Density for Metropolitan Areas: 2000"

and for a breakdown of the areas:

www.census.gov/.../99mfips.txt

May 30, 2008 2:49 PM

randall said:

I reversed the data too:

PMSAs  LA (4480)  v.  NY (5600)

2000 pop:  9,314,235  v.  9,519,338

Land: 1,141.64  v.  4,060.87

Density:  2,344.20  v.  8,158.70

Should have been:

PMSAs  LA (4480)  v.  NY (5600)

2000 pop:  9,314,235  v.  9,519,338

Land:   4,060.87  v.  1,141.64

Density:  2,344.20  v.  8,158.70

May 30, 2008 3:15 PM

Nippers said:

Singlespeed, a little more evidence from another source: Just now, doing some research, I came upon population density figures in a report by a professor at Stanford's Institute for International Studies. Current as of 2000, they are as follows:

New York Greater Metro:

area=3,585 sq miles; pop.=18.7 million; density=5,216 per sq. mile

L.A. Metro:

area=16,600 sq miles; pop.=10.5 million; density=632 per sq. mile.

Assuming the good professor's numbers are right, New York Greater Metro is 8 times denser than L.A. metro--and for what it's worth, twice as dense as greater Tokyo.

June 1, 2008 8:56 PM