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13.05.2008
Hey, Maybe Wind's No Joke After All

Okay, by popular request (well... maybe just one request), here's that new Department of Energy report arguing that wind could supply 20 percent of the nation's electricity needs by 2030. It sure sounds fanciful, seeing as how wind currently provides just 1 percent of America's electricity, but the DOE thinks it can be done. And doing so would reduce carbon-dioxide emissions in the U.S. electric sector by 25 percent.

Now, the big surprise here is that a wind boom of this magnitude wouldn't require any new technological breakthroughs. Nor is the wind industry constrained by the material shortages that are cramping the nuclear industry's style right now. Wind power could deliver electricity for 6 to 8.5 cents per kilowatt/hour, which is just a notch above dirty coal, and a notch below the estimated 15 cents per kwh for new nuclear plants. (As the Wall Street Journal reports today, nuclear's expected renaissance has been dampened somewhat by skyrocketing construction costs.)

The main hurdle in ramping up wind power, I'd say, is building all those new transmission lines, which, as California's discovering, can be a huge headache. Arnold Schwarzenegger recently proposed a 150-mile transmission line that would've snaked through portions of a state park, and conservationists were outraged. Wind turbines can easily fall prey to NIMBY-ism, especially with the DOE suggesting that a wind-power push could entail up to 20,000 square miles worth of new turbines. (Interestingly, when I was reporting this piece on wind-power-mania in Texas, I was told that NIMBY-ism wasn't a big obstacle to offshore wind platforms there, since Texans were already accustomed to seeing hulking oil rigs out on the horizon.)

Meanwhile, both Texas and Denmark are learning that it can be rather pricey to expand the grid to handle all those new wind turbines coming on-line. That's doubly true given that our current, creaky grid isn't very well-suited for managing intermittent power sources like wind. But the DOE study suggests that even after you factor in the transmission and grid costs, those turbines still offer one of the more cost-effective clean-energy options around (that 8.5 cents-per-kwh figure ostensibly includes all these considerations). Long story short: If the United States ever put a moderate price on carbon—or even just passed a national renewable portfolio standard—it really does seem like wind power could take off in a hurry.

P.S. On a related note, the WSJ's Keith Johnson reports that offshore wind-power farms are proving much, much trickier to build than their landlubbing counterparts. The DOE report sort of suggests as much. 

--Bradford Plumer

Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:36 PM with 12 comment(s)

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liberal reformer said:

Thanks much for the excellent response to my inquiry, Bradford. I envisioned that a major logistical problem would be the transmision lines. Interesting point about the anti - NIMBYism in Texas. It seems that the Lonestar state is not rife with Teddy Kennedys. You have confirmed my impression that a major ramp - up of wind would be feasible.

May 13, 2008 3:16 PM

Andrew Davis said:

And, just think about how many small towns might be saved in places like Kansas by this source of energy.

May 13, 2008 4:05 PM

singlespeed said:

LR...One of the ironies of the wind boom in Texas is that many ranchers are opting for wind turbine installations on their land instead of the natural gas drilling operations (which come with a whole slew of environmental issues). Not because the ranchers suddenly got on the global warming wagon or turned green but primarily they're finding the wind turbines don't pollute ground water and well water sources like natural gas rigs do and they don't have the traffic and noise problems on their grazing lands. Not only that, but the wind companies pay more than the gas companies do.

But maybe the solution to ramping up wind is not to develop a huge wind farm and then send the electricity generated in Texas across transmission lines to California. I think the fact that regional development will end up being the proper solution where urban cities pay for the development of locally generated power via wind and solar. Many do this now but only through regulations via PUCs. Instead, it might be having urban centers issue bonds to develop the localized infrastructure and then have Federal dollars help with regional delivery systems. Couple this with smart grid technology, back metering for people who generate electricity on-site but at the city level instead of the house by house level we might see a faster development of wind, solar and geothermal.

Smaller regional operations occur in Wyoming and other Western state locations so hopefully we'll see more growth in this direction.

May 13, 2008 4:16 PM

GSpinks said:

And there you have it, folks. As if by magic, Obama's "Green Jobs" have appeared from thin air, awaiting your vote in November. :>

May 13, 2008 4:52 PM

literatehobo said:

Wind is also growing in northwestern Missouri for reasons similar to those Singlespeed pointed out. It's a very low-impact addition to ranch land, and provides a good supplemental income to the rancher/farmer that is far more valuable than a straight government subsidy.

As for NIMBYs, ask them which they'd prefer on their skyline: a turbine, a smokestack, or a cooling tower? It's going to be one of those three.

Single's also dead on to emphasis the power of local and regional power networks. It's an offshoot of the efficiency approach; if you generate bits of electricity everywhere, you end up with a large-scale improvement in the grid, even though any one installation is a bug on the windshield of carbon emissions, in the same way that even small improvements in CAFE standards generate large benefits overall.

My home's electricity use dropped nearly 50% after we installed solar hot water. Even at half that effect, imagine the results if every new house in the country had a solar water panel on the roof.

May 13, 2008 6:29 PM

liberal reformer said:

Singlespeed: Thanks for your interesting comments. We are experiencing that phenomenon up here in Washington (east of the Cascades), too, only it is agricultural land that is being given over to wind power, in some cases.

May 13, 2008 7:23 PM

aeromonas said:

Were my father around to witness a large increase in wind energy utilization (He died earlier this year) it would do his heart proud.

Dad was a structural dynamicist for NASA, which means that he was an expert at predicting the ways that complex, hypothetical structures such as airframes can be expected to vibrate.  Most of his work served to assist defense contractors in improving the design and manufacture of weapons of war, helicopters mostly.  But in the 1970s he did some modeling analysis that was instrumental to the design of the first commercial-scale wind turbines.

I don't think he was ever all that proud of the war machines he'd helped build.  He used to remark reather sardonically that "the helicopter is an excellent weapon for killing large numbers of unarmed people."  And once when I was a kid I found a huge binder in the attic labeled "Atlas/Centaur."  "What's this?" I asked.  "Don't worry about that, son," he said somewhat sheepishly.  "And it's best if you don't mention that to anyone."  For those who don't get the reference, Atlas and Centaur were medium range ballistic missiles.

A few years back he showed me a magazine article about the rise of wind power.  "This stuff's really beginning to amount to something," he said.  "And you know, I was there right at the beginning.  If wind power were to be my legacy, that'd be all right with me."

Me too.

May 13, 2008 11:49 PM

r-ennis said:

Wind is no joke in the hands of an energy professional like T. Boone Pickens who knows about the economics of scale and is developing a 3000 MW generating plant and delivery system. It is a joke if the government offers subsidies to tinpot 30 MW developers who are in the business solely becuase of the subsidy.

May 14, 2008 10:40 AM

cspencef said:

Since Andrew Davis mentioned Kansas...

Quote (from singlespeed in an earlier thread):

"The plains of N & S Dakota, Kansas and Oklahoma provide prime real estate for wind farming opportunities. It's more a political will to help along the development."

Ah, political will...the good folk of the Kansas Republican Party (still the whiniest, most juvenile bunch of public officials I have ever seen) are still pushing for coal-fired power plants in western Kansas, despite two vetoes from the Guv.  Plants that would, ironically, send most of their power to Colorado.  Great.  Stink up Kansas so Denver can sprawl more.  It's "wind power" of a sort, just the wrong sort...

Snark aside, singlespeed, you hit on the key; getting local areas to look at their own best prospects for renewable energy production and develop accordingly rather than putting all of the country's eggs in the proverbial one basket.  

May 14, 2008 5:17 PM

teplukhin2you said:

hobo - "As for NIMBYs, ask them which they'd prefer on their skyline: a turbine, a smokestack, or a cooling tower? It's going to be one of those three"

Actually, the turbines I've seen in Northern California are very sleek, elegant, even. Like a Santiago Calatrava structure. I can see them becoming a fashion statement at some point. If I had 30 acres, I'd permit a line of them on my property.

May 15, 2008 1:46 AM

Environment and Energy said:

Joe Romm is testifying before the Senate EPW today and has a nice, concise statement on nuclear power

July 16, 2008 12:32 PM

Environment and Energy said:

The national grid doesn't get nearly enough attention when people talk about energy policy. Maybe

August 27, 2008 12:53 PM