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13.05.2008
(Belated) Thoughts on McCain's Big Climate Talk

Yeah, I know, I'm late to the party, but John McCain gave a big speech on climate policy today. When I was writing this piece for the print mag about McCain's topsy-turvy environmental record, a couple of folks told me that he was planning to talk about global warming a lot in the general election, using Schwarzenegger's green-themed lurch to the center in California as a model. So, here we are, talkin' bout the climate...

On the merits, McCain's proposals are far more serious than anything the current administration has ever proposed. (Then again, Bush promised to regulate carbon in his first White House run, too, and we all know how that fared...) But, as Dave Roberts notes in his excellent synopsis, McCain's actual goals for reducing greenhouse-gas emissions—60 percent below 1990 levels by 2050—fall well short of the cuts that many climate scientists deem necessary to avoid a 2 degree C rise in temperatures above pre-industrial levels. And once that happens, we risk runaway warming as feedback effects start kicking in, and, from there, droughts, heat waves, rising sea levels, the works…

That said, I'm (honestly) unsure how important it is to get the long-term targets perfect right away. Some cap-and-trade bills contain "look-back" provisions that allow the targets to be tweaked down the road if new climate science comes in saying the situation's even more FUBAR'ed than previously thought. The major hurdle for climate policy is to get a cap-and-trade regime up and running in the first place. McCain, to his credit, wants to do that, and his short-term goals for reducing carbon emissions aren't much different from Obama's (though Obama's long-term goals—80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050—are much, much more ambitious).

The major differences between McCain and, say, Obama come into focus when we look at how they would design their cap-and-trade regimes. Europe's initial foray into cap-and-trade went badly because governments didn't get the details right—for one, they gave away too many pollution permits for free. McCain favors this handout approach, which would allow polluters to reap windfall profits as energy prices rise. Obama, meanwhile, would rather auction off the credits, making his proposal more closely akin to a carbon tax. (The new carbon cap-and-trade system for electric utilities in the Northeast, RGGI, will auction off most of its permits, too, so that's worth keeping an eye on when it gets underway this fall.)

The biggest potential snakepit in McCain's plan, though, is his proposal to allow emitters to buy an unlimited number of carbon "offsets" to pay for their pollution. Now, in theory, offsets can lower the costs for industry in the short term and can help spur emissions reductions in areas that aren't covered by the cap, such as agriculture. But that's just the theory. In the real world, it's nearly impossible to monitor these offsets to make sure they're actually working properly. A recent Stanford study found that up to two-thirds of the carbon offsets under the Kyoto Protocol's Clean Development Mechanism may well be worthless. Joe Romm rants at length about this aspect of McCain's proposal in his write-up and concludes that the plan is "built on quicksand." That's a real danger.

So there's plenty of daylight between McCain's and Obama's positions on global warming, and it's not enough to say they both favor cap-and-trade and let's just call it a wash. Sadly, many of the disagreements aren't easy to hash out in a stump speech or a two-minute news segment. Overall, Obama is still much stronger on this issue, although, admittedly, the bar for conservatives is so low these days that it's sort of nice to see a Republican make any good-faith effort on climate policy…

More: Kevin Drum has a lucid post summing up the main differences between auctioning off the pollution permits in a cap-and-trade system and handing them out for free. Definitely worth reading.

--Bradford Plumer

Posted: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:57 AM with 15 comment(s)

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liberal reformer said:

Very lucid and eloquent post, Bradford.  It is indeed nice to see a Republican candidate for president make an effort to combat global warming. But it must be more than merely rhetorical. If McCain were to be elected, it would be nice if he would go back to his maverick ways.

May 13, 2008 12:39 AM

aeromonas said:

re Off-sets.  They are, in large part, crap.  A sizeable proportion of such offsets--I don't have the data to say exacly what proportion--take the form of companies buying or leasing land to plant trees.  Here in Australia  a business has been formed that is essentially a forestry company, only instead of wood for lumber and paper, they intend to sell carbon offsets.  

Now reforestation is no doubt a good thing.  As noted in the climate change mitigation blog post that you linked to a week or two back, the world-wide reforestation of an area the size of the continental US would constitute one stabilization wedge (10-15 wedges required to prevent doubling of CO2 by 2050).  But reforestation isn't nearly as valuable as declining burn the fossil fuel and release the carbon in the first place for the simple reason that forests are relatively unstable carbon sinks.  Fires burn them down and people change their minds and chop them down.

May 13, 2008 1:13 AM

aeromonas said:

Al Gore--and I like the guy, mind you--mumbled something about carbon offsets when asked a question about how his jetting around the world to this or that public appearance jived with his climate change message.  He claimed that with such offsets he was personally carbon neutral.

I dunno about that.  Okay, so Gore has used some of his millions to buy up fallow farmland in Tennessee or someplace similar and plant trees on it, and that may in fact fix as much carbon as he and Tipper managed to belch out over the course of a year.  But inasmuch as such offsets are beyond the means of the vast majority of the world's inhabitants, and given that even if you abandoned all food production planted trees on every patch of arable land on the planet, you still couldn't fix enough carbon to offset all the fossil fuels we human's burn each year, can you legitimately justify excessive use of fossil fuel energy by your support of tree farm offsets?

May 13, 2008 1:20 AM

ratnerstar said:

I've always been suspicious of offsets; prima facie, they sound like medieval indulgences.

Occasionally, I wonder whether the best hope for doing something about global warming lies in getting John McCain elected.  Not that his plan is the best, but it may take a Republican to win over Congress and (more importantly) the public.  Only Nixon can go to China, etc.

May 13, 2008 9:24 AM

Brad Plumer said:

ratnerstar -- Yeah, I think that's really possible, although, one thing I found out while talking to people for that print piece was that McCain hasn't converted any Republicans on this issue to date, not even his good friend Lindsay Graham. (It was Lieberman, not McCain, who pulled off the big coup of flipping John Warner.) Of course, being president is different from being a self-styled "maverick" senator, and McCain might be able to do more with a bigger bully pulpit, but the extent to which he's terrible at building legislative coalitions is surprising.

May 13, 2008 10:04 AM

literatehobo said:

I found this line of the speech particularly compelling: "And we must do this in a way that gives American businesses new incentives and new rewards to seek, instead of just giving them new taxes to pay and new orders to follow". This captures quite nicley one of the fundamental differences between the two parties, and why I somewhat distrust many Democratic attempts at large-scale policy, agriculture including (my field). Indidividuals and systems react far better to subtle persuasion than unwelcome coercion.

The concern for me, with McCain and everyone else, is that they seem unwilling to look deeply enough into the issue to understand and address its root causes. McCain can emphasize renewable energy, clean energy, futuristic tech all he wants, but as long as our country and culture are hell-bent on consuming as much as we want, consequences be damned, he's going to be fighting a rearguard action. If McCain or Obama are willing to outright criticize, denounce, and work against the culture of sprawl, waste, consumption, and cheap above all that is ultimately driving these issues, then I will believe in them. Until then they're just spraying water on forest fires without cleaning out the dead brush that's causing them.

Oh, and carbon offsets are crap. Indulgences are a great analogy; it's a way for self-righteous fools to pretend they're doing something without actually having to do anything. It's a bad side of liberalism; believing that you can buy ethics and morality.

May 13, 2008 11:55 AM

liberal reformer said:

Literatehobo: Excellent point about subtle persuasion. That is the thesis of the latest book by TNR's own Cass Sunstein.

May 13, 2008 2:04 PM

literatehobo said:

Reformer,

Subtle persuasion is why I'm quietly rejoicing at the rise in gas and food prices. Top-down policies are not going to effect the changes this country needs in its energy and ag systems, but bottom-up forces will. At an individual level, it badly hurts a lot of people who can't afford to be pawns in this game, but at a systems level it's exactly what we need. Good luck getting anyone to say that on the campaign trail, though.

May 13, 2008 2:47 PM

JEFF FREY said:

Excellent discussion. Maybe only reasoable people read this blog?

I am not convinced at all the offsets will work, but "crap" is also too negative. Cap and trade is also fine, as long as we recognize that it is not the solution (part of the solution, but not all of it). The only real solution is to burn a lot less fossil fuels, and to do that we need to push conservation as an everyday ethic, and also push hard to develop alternatives. It is not going to be easy.

If prices stay high, it may go a long way to pushing us in the right direction, but I can't say I would rejoice in high prices because it is a cruel way to teach a lesson. Nature is a cruel teacher sometimes, and so is supply and demand.

May 14, 2008 1:07 AM

literatehobo said:

Jeff Frey,

I think there's a big difference between personal carbon offsets and those applied to industry. I stand by my belief that the former are "crap", while the latter have promise. Purchasing offsets to justify one's behavior is meaningless, misleading, and egotistical. If one feels bad about one's so-called carbon footprint, one can adjust behavior or directly invest in meaningful changes. Paying some company to plant a few trees to you can travel with a free mind is crap. Take that money and invest it yourself in green technology. Invest it in improving your own house or situation. Donate it directly to a worthwhile source, park, or so on. Paying a private company to absolve your confession is the cheap way out.

"I can't say I would rejoice in high prices because it is a cruel way to teach a lesson. Nature is a cruel teacher sometimes, and so is supply and demand."

I understand. I don't know what else will teach that lesson, though. And the true challenge of our times is to make the transition in a way that does not leave behind generations and regions of people who have little choice in the matter (esp. rural America), but without instituting a massive government project that will inevitable dilute the needed changes.

"Maybe only reasoable people read this blog?"

Plank and Stump used to be that way, until they became interchangeable horse race play-by-plays full of partisan bickering. I barely go there any more. Nice to see more folks showing up here to salvage the intellectual value that used to exist on the rest of Talkback.

May 14, 2008 8:20 AM

dhauck said:

hobo -  I'm hoping that when the election is over, the other blogs will return to reason as well.

May 14, 2008 12:27 PM

literatehobo said:

dhauck,

Me, too. It's been sad watching TNR turn into CNN Online.

May 15, 2008 10:57 AM

Environment and Energy said:

I flitted around this topic briefly in my post on John McCain's big climate speech the other day

May 15, 2008 3:14 PM

The Plank said:

Well, as expected, the Boxer-Lieberman-Warner cap-and-trade bill quietly died in the Senate this morning

June 6, 2008 12:14 PM

Environment and Energy said:

Well, as expected, the Boxer-Lieberman-Warner cap-and-trade bill quietly died in the Senate this morning

June 6, 2008 12:16 PM